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- 06-10-2008, 11:38 PM#1
Donaghy: Refs fixed playoff series, other games
Donaghy: Refs fixed playoff series, other games
by FOXSports.com
Updated: June 10, 2008, 6:07 PM EST 351 comments
The Tim Donaghy scandal just got more serious.
The disgraced former NBA referee told authorities in a four-page letter released Tuesday that two officials conspired to fix the outcome of a 2002 playoff series among other games.
The fix is in?
Tim Donaghy did not mention which series in 2002 was fixed, but the Lakers-Kings Western Conference finals was the only series that fits his allegations. A statistical look at Game 6:
Stat
Lakers
Kings
Halftime score
51
56
Final score
106
102
Free throws
34-40
18-25
4th Q FTs
21-27
7-9
Fouled out
None
Divac, Pollard
Fouls
24
31
Game 6 officials: **** Bavetta, Ted Bernhardt, Bob Delaney
Court documents filed by Donaghy's lawyer detailed the "inner-workings" of a plot in which top league executives used referees to manipulate the games. Donaghy claims two referees were "company men" whose job was to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game.
The documents did not name the series, but the Lakers-Kings Western Conference finals was the only series in 2002 that went to a seventh game, with the Lakers winning Game 6, 106-102.
The report said the referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win and called phantom fouls against the other team which led to two of their players fouling out. The team supposedly favored by the refs won Games 6 and 7 to win the series, according to the allegations.
"Our big guys get 20 fouls tonight and Shaq gets four? You tell me how the game went," Kings coach Rick Adelman said after Game 6 of that series. "It's just the way it is. Obviously, they got the game called the way they wanted to get it called."
The letter doesn't name anyone involved. Donaghy's attorney and prosecutors have declined to comment. The league has denied the scandal goes beyond Donaghy and two co-defendants.
According to the document, Donaghy also said "league officials would tell referees that they should withhold calling technical fouls on certain star players because doing so hurt ticket sales and television ratings."
Donaghy also said refs broke league rules by routinely fraternizing with players, coaches and team management and that the resulting inappropriate relationships may have influenced the outcomes of games. He claims one general manager in 2004 made a game-day phone call to referees to encourage them to call more personal fouls against an opponent.
Donaghy claims referees have accepted autographs, merchandise and meals from team representatives. He said one official used a team's facility to exercise and another played tennis with an NBA coach.
The veteran referee pleaded guilty last year to felony charges alleging he took cash payoffs from gamblers and bet on games. He faces up to 33 months in prison.
John Lauro, Donaghy's lawyer, filed the letter to a federal judge because none of the information was included in the government's letter to the judge seeking leniency for Donaghy when he is sentenced, according to the New York Daily News.
The report said Lauro withheld the names of those involved because the feds might investigate the situation.
The Associated Press and SportsTicker contributed to this report.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8...playoff-series - 06-10-2008, 11:39 PM#2
Donaghy docs allege refs altered games, broke league rules
ESPN.com
Updated: June 10, 2008, 7:13 PM ET
Jeff Van Gundy ultimately backed off comments that a referee told him officials had targeted Yao Ming in the Houston Rockets' 2005 first-round playoff series against the Dallas Mavericks. Maybe Van Gundy was right after all.
A letter sent to the sentencing court on behalf of convicted former referee Tim Donaghy outlines just such a plan. Donaghy's legal team is trying to demonstrate his cooperation with a federal government investigation before he is sentenced on July 14 on felony charges for taking cash payoffs from gamblers and betting on games himself.
Documents
• Tim Donaghy, right, claims that other referees were involved in altering NBA games. Read PDF
• The Donaghy legal team addresses the NBA's claim that he must pay $1 million restitution. Read PDF
In other documents filed with the Brooklyn court, Donaghy's lawyers responded to the NBA's claim that he must pay $1 million in restitution to cover the cost of the league's private investigation.
The letter alleging referees altered games mentions only the year 2005, but the circumstances make it apparent that it is referring to the Rockets-Mavs series.
"Team 3 lost the first two games in the series and Team 3's owner complained to NBA officials," the letter says. "Team 3's owner alleged that referees were letting a Team 4 player get away with illegal screens. NBA Executive Y told Referee Supervisor Z that the referees for that game were to enforce the screening rules strictly against that Team 4 player. Referee Supervisor Z informed the referees about his instructions. As an alternate referee for that game, Tim also received these instructions."
Mavs owner Mark Cuban complained after his team lost the first two games of the series, and Dallas went on to beat Houston in seven games. Van Gundy said that a working referee had told him about the league's plan. Donaghy's letter claims that Supervisor Z contacted the coach. Van Gundy was fined $100,000.
Looking at box scores from the series, however, the only game in which Yao fouled out was Game 1. He did average 4.4 fouls per game in the series.
The letter also details an incident in the 2002 playoffs in which Donaghy alleges that two referees, who were known as NBA "company men," wanted to extend a series to seven games. "Team 5" could have wrapped up the series in Game 6 but saw two players foul out, lost the game and ultimately the series.
Only one series went to seven games in the 2002 playoffs: Los Angeles Lakers against Sacramento Kings.
In Game 6, the Lakers made 34-of-40 free throws to 18-of-25 for the Kings. In the fourth quarter alone, Los Angeles hit 21-of-27 from the line while Sacramento made 7-of-9. After that game, a 106-102 Lakers win, Kings coach Rick Adelman expressed his frustration with the officiating.
"Our big guys get 20 fouls tonight and [Shaquille O'Neal] gets four? You tell me how the game went," Adelman said. "It's just the way it is. Obviously, they got the game called the way they wanted to get it called."
Donaghy also alleges that team executives conspired with the league to prevent star players from being called for too many fouls or being ejected. He claimed that league officials told referees that doing so would "hurt ticket sales and television ratings."
According to the letter, when an official did eject a star player in the first quarter of a game in 2000, he was privately reprimanded.
In addition to game-altering allegations, Donaghy's letter claims that many officials carry on "relationships" with team executives, coaches and players that violate their NBA contracts.
"Tim described one referee's use of a team's practice facility to exercise and another's frequent tennis matches with a team's coach," the letter states.
The NBA has not commented on Donaghy's allegations. Donaghy's attorney and federal prosecutors also declined to comment to The Associated Press on Tuesday. Donaghy faces up to 33 months in prison.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401 - 06-10-2008, 11:47 PM#3
2002 Sacramento Kings= Uncrowned World Champion.
NBA = WWE ( Where the referees decide the outcome of the game) - 06-11-2008, 07:43 AM#4
Stern must throw the towel and step down. I still wonder how the NBA allowed my Pistons winning it all in 2004
2002 Sacramento Kings= Uncrowned World Champion.
Well, its not correct to make such statements, they had to play the Nets in the finals...47-70
76-58 - 06-11-2008, 07:54 AM#5Kobe simply destroyed all the plans back then by shooting 24 foot fadeaway jumpshots on every possession.Originally Posted by NikooI still wonder how the NBA allowed my Pistons winning it all in 2004
All in all, no surprise. The superstar-calls, ignoring travelling (it's taking over world basketball now too), the rules - everything is constructed to provide ticket sales and good TV ratings.
But it's not that European sports is clean, especially when it's about big money (football). Just keep your eyes open. - 06-11-2008, 08:54 AM#6Right, they were not world championsOriginally Posted by Lebron232002 Sacramento Kings= Uncrowned World Champion.Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature - 06-11-2008, 09:15 AM#7Originally Posted by rikhardurRight, they were not world champions
Any Western Conference Champion back them can easily destroyed the New Jersey Nets in the NBA Finals. - 06-11-2008, 09:52 AM#8He means the term "world". The NBA champion is NOT the world champion. The NBA champion is the domestic champion of US and Canada only and the term "world champion" used for the NBA champion is a joke to anyone outside the US.Originally Posted by Lebron23Any Western Conference Champion back them can easily destroyed the New Jersey Nets in the NBA Finals.
It would be like TAU or Panathinaikos calling themselves "world champions". Even CSKA would have more claim to "world champion" than this year's NBA winner.
As for this ref thing it's so freaking obvious. Has been for years. I have always laughed at how many fans called anyone pointing out that games were rigged "conspiracy nuts".
Just like the people that said anyone that knew Bush was lying about WMD's were "conspiracy nut". Please don't make fun of handicapped people.
Off the top of my head OBVIOUSLY RIGGED NBA playoff series:
1988 Finals Lakers-Pistons
1992 Knicks-Bulls Eastern semis
1993 Knicks-Bulls Eastern finals
2000 Western finals Blazers-Lakers
2002 Kings-Lakers Western finals
2005 Rockets-Mavs first round
2006 Finals Heat-Mavs
Not to mention Jordan's offensive foul in 1998 in the finals against Byron Russell that was BLATANT and not called, etc.
The two that REALLY stick out though is that 2002 Kings-Lakers and 2005 Rockets-Mavs series. No surprise these two come up in this story because it was really blatant and incredibly easy to see that the refs rigged those series.
The amazing thing is that even though anyone watching could see they were rigged the vast majority of fans just ignored it like it was nothing at all. The casual viewers were disgusted and never watched again but the NBA fans just acted like it was nothing at all.
Stern's crap has been going on for so long that people can't even see the rigging anymore. It's absolutely amazing how incredibly AVERAGE players like Dywane Wade or Tim Duncan look when they have to play under fair rules in a FIBA competition. Yet somehow against stronger competition in the NBA they become "superstars". Never mind how many years opposing teams and players and coaches have talked about the bias towards them.
Phil Jackson coached teams have ALWAYS been favored by the refs. Then you have the opposite side with players like Yao Ming that could breath on someone or look at them wrong and get called for an offensive foul, while being fouled 20 times by the defense and not going to the foul line.
You watch some games of the Rockets and see players kicking Yao, punching him, digging their nails in him, scratching his back, kneeing him in the nuts etc. literally dozens of times during a game and he won't go to the foul line.
Then you see guys like Iverson, Dirk, Manu, Wade...........literally someone just glances their jersey and it's like it's time to call a flagrant.
How ANY objective viewer could not have known the NBA was fixing games is beyond me.Last edited by mvblair; 06-11-2008 at 12:05 PM.
- 06-11-2008, 12:04 PM#9
Well, the whole "World Champions" thing is just a question of word choice. We all know what Lebron23 means. And I agree with him.
I watched that '02 game on network TV in Costa Rica. I watched every @#$%ing minute of that game. It was horrible officiating and everybody knew it. Even Ralphy Nadar wanted the NBA to review what happened. The NBA did nothing. I think that a lot of us NBA fans were rolling our eyes and laughing at how bad the referees were that game. Terrible. It was awful.
And it fueled my conspiracy theories. Yeah, I think there was never any explicit attempt to tell the referees what to do, but there was an implicit understanding amongst referees and the league about how to call certain games.
Was the '02 game fixed? Yes.I agree. Unfortunately, the dude has made so much money for the league owners that they won't want him to go.Originally Posted by NikooStern must throw the towel and step down.Sad, but true. It's a money game, like any professional sport.Originally Posted by robbeAll in all, no surprise. The superstar-calls, ignoring travelling (it's taking over world basketball now too), the rules - everything is constructed to provide ticket sales and good TV ratings.I guess we're two of those nuts, huh?Originally Posted by Vasileios Spanoulis 666As for this ref thing it's so freaking obvious. Has been for years. I have always laughed at how many fans called anyone pointing out that games were rigged "conspiracy nuts"."I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas - 06-11-2008, 09:33 PM#10I used to think the same thing, I now stand corrected.Originally Posted by Vasileios Spanoulis 666Has been for years. I have always laughed at how many fans called anyone pointing out that games were rigged "conspiracy nuts".
Just like the people that said anyone that knew Bush was lying about WMD's were "conspiracy nut". Please don't make fun of handicapped people.
Off the top of my head OBVIOUSLY RIGGED NBA playoff series:
1988 Finals Lakers-Pistons
1992 Knicks-Bulls Eastern semis
1993 Knicks-Bulls Eastern finals
2000 Western finals Blazers-Lakers
2002 Kings-Lakers Western finals
2005 Rockets-Mavs first round
2006 Finals Heat-Mavs
Its all rigged.
BTW the suspensions on Diaw and company in 2007 in the SUNS vs SPURS SERIES, in my opinion, is another example.
For some reason the NBA excesively favors the spurs. I wonder if we will ever know why.Carlos Beltran pres of the Basketball federation of PR some key points:
1. Miscalculation of Goal average for 2nd WC in a row.
2. Manolo Cintron is the definition of mediocrity and is trash. He is fired often, and sometimes can't get a job in BSN.
3. FBPR left some of the players without return tickets out of Turkey. Players found out when they got to the airport. And had to pay their own tickets.
4. 5 yr ago we were 6th in the world, after the WC we are lucky if 16th. - 06-12-2008, 02:47 AM#11
The Spurs? Eh ... no!
The ban on Diaw etc. was correct, they clearly violated the rules.
The Spurs are the team nobody (well, except a few basketball purists) wants to see in the finals. - 06-12-2008, 10:45 AM#12
welll if you guys know some people that officiate stuff, no matter the level... some of them are even proud on the way they can act as god and determine the outcome of the game potentialy with one move that can be excused as a mistake (which happen) yet they whistle it intentionaly... I never had any doubt these things are happening from the low level league's all the way to the top...
as Robbe said: open your eyes, it's happening everwhere... it's not really a NBA related topic, but few years ago I used to attend euroleague games with a friend of mine that also happens to be a referee... he won decent money on betting by simply checking on which games all three delegated referees are from the same country (especially focused on 2 nationalities, where obviously referee's were under pressure from someone above and getting all 3 refs from the same country amde the whole thing much easier) - the only issue was realising which team is supposed/prefered to go to F4 and betting accordingly...
That might only interest euroleague fanatics, such as me and some people mostdefinately won't like hearing that, but... in 2004 Efes wasn't supposed to make it to the F4 (Langdon, Granger, Kuqo, Prkačin, Tunceri, Peker, Nikolić some of them in their best years) I've been to their game vs. Olimpija, all that was needed were 3-4 calls in the first half that made Olimpija create a margin, while luckily for someone Ožbolt exploded and there was no need for any favouring in the 2nd half... I remember weve had quite some discussion about some later game that Efes lost - and yeah it was more or less obvious to anyone that've seen both Efes's losses on what's going on.
I'll cause too much potential flaming about Olimpija's only win in top16 in 2002 vs. a team filled with legends, that dropped out of F4 because of it... just one more case imho... one team wasn't suppose to get to F4, just as Olimpija for example wasn't supposed to pass vs. Kinder in 01 and Griffith made the whole town frustrated with his ability to knock everyone on the floor without any consequences...
in all those cases (and some others)... I just don't buy the fact that all referees are supposed to be neutral... it's kind of Croatia - Spain in 05... or some other examples...
and that's completely killing the game...
actually I am a bit surprised that's going on in NBA since I considered it a lot more profesional institution as what we've got in europe and clearly NBA can lose a lot more by that than their potential profit - while in europe it could even be the other way around... - 06-12-2008, 11:04 AM#13
Donaghy in the NBA, Luigi in Europe?
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature - 06-12-2008, 12:19 PM#14Did you see the movie?Originally Posted by rikhardurDonaghy in the NBA, Luigi in Europe?"I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas
- 07-29-2008, 08:48 PM#15
Tim Donaghy 15 months in prison.
Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
Artificial Nature - 07-30-2008, 09:23 AM#16
plus probatory period. If he fails, 3years of jail.
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